{"id":73274,"date":"2025-08-18T11:16:16","date_gmt":"2025-08-18T09:16:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/canfali.com\/?p=73274"},"modified":"2025-08-18T11:16:17","modified_gmt":"2025-08-18T09:16:17","slug":"entrevista-amb-pep-fornes-el-fus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/canfali.com\/ca-es\/entrevista-amb-pep-fornes-el-fus\/","title":{"rendered":"Entrevista amb Pep Forn\u00e9s \u2018el fus\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

\u201cM\u2019agradaria que Jes\u00fas Pobre fora independent\u201d<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Jes\u00fas Pobre celebrava la primera Festa de l\u2019Escald\u00e0, impulsada per l\u2019Associaci\u00f3 de Ve\u00efns i Ve\u00efnes, l\u2019estiu de 2010. Declarada B\u00e9 d\u2019Inter\u00e9s Cultural Immaterial el 4 de maig de 2018, la festa celebrar\u00e0 el 31 d\u2019agost la setzena edici\u00f3. Eixe dia, com ha fet en els darrers anys, Pep Forn\u00e9s, de malnom \u2018el fus\u2019, li botar\u00e0 foc a la caldera. \u00c9s el fogater, el de la corbella. De menut havia escaldat i ajudat al seu iaio, que s\u2019al\u00e7ava m\u00e9s mat\u00ed que tots els de casa per a encendre el fornet. \u201cQuan ja estava la caldera bullint\u201d, recorda, \u201cens despertava als dem\u00e9s\u201d. Conta que en l\u2019activitat s\u2019implicava tota la fam\u00edlia, tamb\u00e9 els ve\u00efns de m\u00e9s a prop. \u201cEl dia de l\u2019escald\u00e0 era una festa, torr\u00e0vem dos alberg\u00ednies i dos pebreres, una ceba, f\u00e8iem ou amb tomaca i, tots a esmorzar!\u201d. Una festa que va anar perdent-se poc a poc i que, des de fa uns anys, es reviu al gran riurau de Jes\u00fas Pobre.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

PREGUNTA: Ha sigut este un bon any per al ra\u00efm?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

RESPOSTA: S\u00ed, ha sigut un any prou bo. Tot i que el sol l\u2019ha cremat molt. Per\u00f2 la producci\u00f3 ha sigut bona.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Escaldaran molts cabassos?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Uns set o huit. Una setmana abans, el dia 23, farem l\u2019escald\u00e0 dels ve\u00efns. L\u2019associaci\u00f3 escaldar\u00e0 deu o dotze cabassos de ra\u00efm que, ja convertit en pansa, es posar\u00e0 a la venda el dia de la gran escald\u00e0, el diumenge 31. Vendrem tamb\u00e9 ra\u00efm de taula i tota la recaptaci\u00f3 ser\u00e0 a benefici de l\u2019associaci\u00f3. La gent que vinga el dia de la festa podr\u00e0 vore tot el proc\u00e9s i tamb\u00e9 comprar pansa i ra\u00efm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Per qu\u00e8 naix la festa?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Perqu\u00e8 estava tot perdut. Els m\u00e9s joves no sabien com s\u2019escaldava. I Antonio \u2018el Xorr\u00ed\u2019, que no parava mai de pensar, va tindre la idea. Totes les idees de l\u2019associaci\u00f3 venien d\u2019ell. Nosaltres ens puj\u00e0vem al carro i au! La del Mercat del Riurau, la pujada al Montg\u00f3, el sopar d\u2019estiu… totes van ser idees seues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Encara hi ha gent que escalda a Jes\u00fas Pobre?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: En aquell moment s\u00ed. Ara ja no. Quasi ning\u00fa t\u00e9 ra\u00efm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Per al vi tamb\u00e9 es necessita ra\u00efm i cada vegada se\u2019n fa m\u00e9s.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: La gent s\u2019ha tirat m\u00e9s al vi, molts dels que tenen ra\u00efm el gasten per a fer caldo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Guarda alguna an\u00e8cdota de quan escaldaven a casa?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: A ma casa port\u00e0vem terres a mitges, el sequer aquell tenia dotze bous de llarg\u00e0ria i afegien una altra pila de canyissos darrere de sis. Hi hauria m\u00e9s de cent canyissos. L\u2019any de la riuada el sequer estava a tope. Vam comen\u00e7ar a empilar banyant-nos i al final mon pare va dir que ho deix\u00e0rem estar. Es va banyar tot. Quan va passar, vam tirar tot el ra\u00efm baix d\u2019un marge. No s\u00e9 eixe any de qu\u00e8 degu\u00e9rem menjar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: La pansa era un mitj\u00e0 de subsist\u00e8ncia.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: S\u00ed. Per\u00f2 la gent va comen\u00e7ar a abandonar per anar a treballar a les f\u00e0briques. Poc a poc va anar deixant la terra.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Jes\u00fas Pobre ha servit de model a altres pobles que tamb\u00e9 escalden.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Hem donat la idea i molts pobles s\u2019han apuntat. Escalden a Pedreguer, a Ll\u00edber, a Terrateig…<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: En aix\u00f2 de l\u2019Escald\u00e0 hi ha un toc de nost\u00e0lgia, un punt de romanticisme.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Pot ser. No crec que ning\u00fa vaja a dedicar-se a escaldar pansa, per\u00f2 no volem que s\u2019oblide. El dia de la festa tamb\u00e9 donem difusi\u00f3 al treball de la llata i a l\u2019elaboraci\u00f3 dels canyissos. No volem que es perden.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Pocs saben fer-ne.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Un xic del poble es dedica ara a fer canyissets, per al sostre de les cases, per a decoraci\u00f3… I ha sigut degut a tot a\u00e7\u00f2.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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P: A Jes\u00fas Pobre s\u00f3n molt lluitadors. Van evitar que el gran riurau se n\u2019an\u00e9s al terra.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Vam aconseguir que es fera una bona restauraci\u00f3 i que puga ser utilitzat pel poble. Altres pobles han seguit el cam\u00ed que vam encetar i han restaurat els seus riuraus. Som pioners en moltes coses.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: No \u00e9s f\u00e0cil que un poble estiga tan unit.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Som pocs i molt animosos. Ens portem prou b\u00e9. Per\u00f2 sempre som els mateixos. La gent jove no es fa avant. \u00c9s molt senyoreta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: No s\u2019implica.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Passa, en general. Els hem donat les coses tan ben fetes i f\u00e0cils que no volen saber m\u00e9s. En la pol\u00edtica passa el mateix.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: El Mercat del Riurau ha servit tamb\u00e9 d\u2019exemple per a altres pobles.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Hem aconseguit que tinga continu\u00eftat durant tot l\u2019any, altres no han pogut. El mercat dona oportunitat a tindre un lloc de venda a la gent que treballa el camp. Ara b\u00e9, els venedors s\u00f3n els mateixos que al principi. No s\u2019ha incorporat gent jove. Tornem al mateix.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Cada vegada \u00e9s major l\u2019aflu\u00e8ncia de gent. Han pensat que a\u00e7\u00f2 se\u2019n pot anar de mare?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: S\u00ed, els diumenges est\u00e0 tot ple, els camins, el poble. Hi ha gent que est\u00e0 assustada, sobre tot els joves. Jo no. S\u00f3n quatre hores i un dia a la setmana. \u00c9s com quan arriba el barco d\u2019Eivissa a D\u00e9nia i es fa una llarga cua perqu\u00e8 els cotxes han de baixar. Per\u00f2 \u00e9s nom\u00e9s un moment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Est\u00e0 en perill la idiosincr\u00e0sia del poble, la tranquil\u00b7litat que sempre l\u2019ha caracteritzat?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Crec que no, de moment. La construcci\u00f3 tamb\u00e9 est\u00e0 controlada. Vivim igual de tranquils. Ara b\u00e9, el preu de les cases ha apujat molt respecte als pobles de la contornada, Gata, Pedreguer, Ondara. Un jove no pot comprar casa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Qu\u00e8 fa que Jes\u00fas Pobre tinga eixa atracci\u00f3?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: No s\u00e9 si ho fa el Montg\u00f3 o la zona on estem. Quan els frares van fer un convent ac\u00ed, per alguna cosa seria. Potser per ser un lloc m\u00e9s espiritual.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Algun dia el convent ser\u00e0 del poble?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Ho veig dif\u00edcil. Vam tindre l\u2019ocasi\u00f3 i la vam deixar passar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Per a ser un poble tan menut, tenen molts bars.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: I funcionen a tope. Per\u00f2 des de la pand\u00e8mia tanquen a l\u2019hivern per les vesprades. Una ll\u00e0stima. El bar fa poble.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Qu\u00e8 fa que el seu teixit associatiu ac\u00ed siga tan potent?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Som vora tres-cents associats i hem impulsat moltes coses, com el concurs de vins o el mateix mercat. Ara, la llata amb les dones majors. Des del principi la comissi\u00f3 de la dona ha sigut tamb\u00e9 molt activa i s\u2019han llen\u00e7at altres projectes que han tingut molta repercussi\u00f3, com el del blat. Funciona. La farina est\u00e0 tots els anys venuda, es fa cervesa amb el blat de Jes\u00fas Pobre. Va molt b\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Va ser l\u2019associaci\u00f3 qui va posar en marxa el proc\u00e9s per a ser entitat local. Ha marcat un abans i un despr\u00e9s?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Tenim m\u00e9s recursos, un ajuntament, Correus, m\u00e9s autonomia i m\u00e9s serveis. I ens escolten un poc m\u00e9s. Ara existim, que alguns no sabien que exist\u00edem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Veu a Jes\u00fas Pobre com un poble independent?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: M\u2019agradaria que fora independent. Tenim cementeri i estem prou lluny de D\u00e9nia.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Molt personal<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n

P: D\u2019on ve aix\u00f2 de \u2018fus\u2019?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Sembla que un avantpassat meu feia fusos, per a fer boixets, i li deien \u2018el tio fus\u2019.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Li devem a vost\u00e8 la fira de brocanters de Jes\u00fas Pobre?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Soc aficionat a les coses antigues del camp, i s\u00ed, la vaig muntar jo. Guarde tot l\u2019antic. Esperava que compraren el convent per a muntar un museu per\u00f2 segurament anir\u00e9 llevant-m\u2019ho de damunt. Es perdr\u00e0. No tenim un local per a guardar-ho.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: La fira ha sigut un \u00e8xit.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Est\u00e0 a tope. Ve gent amb ganes de comprar, no ve a passejar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: L\u2019hem vist ballar.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: No sabia, per\u00f2 m\u2019ha agradat sempre. Ara forme part del Jes\u00fas Pobre Grup de Danses. Ho passem b\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: I fa teatre.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: M\u2019agradava anar al teatre i fa cinc o si anys em vaig apuntar a l\u2019escola de Pedreguer. Estic molt a gust. M\u2019encanta pujar a l\u2019escenari, encara que de vegades \u00e9s un poc dif\u00edcil. Per\u00f2 estic feli\u00e7.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Cap on tira m\u00e9s? Cap a X\u00e0bia, Gata, Ondara, D\u00e9nia…?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Cap a Pedreguer. Parlem com els de Pedreguer i som m\u00e9s com ells, valents, emprenedors. Encara que Gata est\u00e0 a dos quil\u00f2metres i tenim una relaci\u00f3 bon\u00edssima, no som com ells. El car\u00e0cter \u00e9s diferent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Jo el vaig con\u00e8ixer fa molts anys com a representant de l\u2019Ajuntament de D\u00e9nia a Jes\u00fas Pobre.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Estava encarregat de les aig\u00fces potables. Era l\u2019\u00fanic empleat de l\u2019ajuntament ac\u00ed. M\u2019ha passat de tot. Era l\u2019home de confian\u00e7a a Jes\u00fas Pobre. A mi em rebien i m\u2019escoltaven. No he sigut alcalde perqu\u00e8 no he volgut (riu).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: Ara \u00e9s el pare de l\u2019alcalde. Com est\u00e0 fent-ho?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: Est\u00e0 fent-ho prou b\u00e9. \u00c9s jove i no ha deixat de treballar. Gestiona i fa la seua feina, per\u00f2 no vol ser protagonista. Estic content que la gent jove es fa\u00e7a avant. Va costar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

P: No ha pensat mai dedicar-se a la pol\u00edtica?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

R: No, mai. 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