{"id":46237,"date":"2024-11-12T13:30:33","date_gmt":"2024-11-12T12:30:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/canfali.com\/la-entrevista-jaume-castells-ferrer-ha-muchos-con-o-sin-carnet-que-somos-socialistas-no-vemos-claro-lo-que-pasa\/"},"modified":"2025-02-21T13:18:00","modified_gmt":"2025-02-21T12:18:00","slug":"la-entrevista-jaume-castells-ferrer-ha-muchos-con-o-sin-carnet-que-somos-socialistas-no-vemos-claro-lo-que-pasa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/canfali.com\/ca-es\/la-entrevista-jaume-castells-ferrer-ha-muchos-con-o-sin-carnet-que-somos-socialistas-no-vemos-claro-lo-que-pasa\/","title":{"rendered":"L&#8217;entrevista\/Jaume Castells Ferrer: \u201cHi ha molts amb o sense carnet que som socialistes i no veiem clar el que passa\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>D&Iacute;DAC VENGUT<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Jaume Castells s&#39;ha donat colzades amb una generaci&oacute; de pol&iacute;tics de la talla de Felipe Gonz&aacute;lez, Adolfo Su&aacute;rez, Santiago Carrillo i Manuel Fraga, per citar alguns. Ara no est&agrave; en primera l&iacute;nia per&ograve; &eacute;s una veu prestigiosa i un bon analista del que passa avui dia gr&agrave;cies a la seva experi&egrave;ncia de gaireb&eacute; 20 anys en el Congr&eacute;s dels Diputats de Madrid. Des del seu retir en la seua Benissa natal, Castells explica el que &eacute;s ser pol&iacute;tic i repassa l&#39;actualitat protagonitzada per Pedro S&aacute;nchez, Alberto N&uacute;&ntilde;ez Feij&oacute;o, Carles Puigdemont i altres. Va estar el 23F en el Congr&eacute;s i recorda aquella experi&egrave;ncia com una de les m&eacute;s doloroses de la jove, aleshores, democr&agrave;cia espanyola.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>PREGUNTA: La pol&iacute;tica, o m&eacute;s aviat la manera de fer pol&iacute;tica, no &eacute;s la mateixa d&#39;abans. Les coses han canviat molt, No creu?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>RESPOSTA: Molt&iacute;ssim, diria jo. Per&ograve; seria terrible que, als gaireb&eacute; 50 anys de la defunci&oacute; del dictador, l&#39;Estat Espanyol no hagu&eacute;s canviat les formes i els modes d&#39;enfocar les solucions als nostres problemes. Per&ograve; els canvis no sempre poden ser positius. N&#39;hi ha per a b&eacute; i per a mal. Per&ograve; crec que la majoria de les vegades s&#39;ha encertat.<\/p>\n<p><strong>P: Ja no queden grans oradors i ara &eacute;s tot &ldquo;i tu m&eacute;s&rdquo;.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>R: El moment actual &eacute;s de crispaci&oacute; per diversos motius. La cambra est&agrave; molt fragmentada i els grups parlamentaris ni amb pactes arriben a majories per a governar. Els governs han de pactar i cedir, a vegades massa. L&#39;oposici&oacute; est&agrave; alterada perqu&egrave; t&eacute; m&eacute;s escons que el grup majoritari del govern i diu que el govern &eacute;s il&middot;legal. No tenen mem&ograve;ria. No &eacute;s un problema de &ldquo;i tu m&eacute;s&rdquo; ni d&#39;oradors. A vegades &eacute;s d&#39;educaci&oacute; i de sentit com&uacute;. La crispaci&oacute; del carrer arriba a la cambra i viceversa. Amb aquest clima, ni hi ha pactes ni di&agrave;legs, ni acords ni res.<\/p>\n<p><strong>P: Comencem per casa. Pedro S&aacute;nchez &eacute;s tot un supervivent. Qu&egrave; t&eacute;? Quina &eacute;s la seva for&ccedil;a?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>R: Per a ser un supervivent en aquest moment cal nedar molt. Hi ha molts fronts oberts. Com aquell nen que li deia al pare: &ldquo;Pap&agrave;, no vull anar a Am&egrave;rica&rdquo;. I el seu pare li contesta: &ldquo;Calla nen i continua nedant&rdquo;. Controlar el partit no &eacute;s f&agrave;cil per&ograve;, si l&#39;aconsegueixes, la resta ve rodat. I si est&agrave;s en la direcci&oacute; d&#39;algun govern, encara millor.<\/p>\n<p><strong>P: Encara aix&iacute;, t&eacute; moltes cr&iacute;tiques dins del partit. Entre ells, el president Felipe Gonz&aacute;lez<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>R: Mai he escoltat ni a Gonz&aacute;lez ni a Guerra criticar a S&aacute;nchez. Els he vist en televisi&oacute; i els he escoltat en la r&agrave;dio dir no estar d&#39;acord amb decisions, lleis i pactes del govern actual. Hi ha molts, molt&iacute;ssims, amb carnet i sense carnet que som socialistes que no veiem clar el que est&agrave; passant. El temps ens l&#39;aclarir&agrave;.<\/p>\n<p><strong>P: La pol&iacute;tica &eacute;s pactar, dialogar. Per&ograve;, creu que tot val per a assegurar set vots?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>R: La pol&iacute;tica &eacute;s una vocaci&oacute; de servir a la societat i no solament en institucions p&uacute;bliques. La pol&iacute;tica es realitza en associacions culturals, econ&ograve;miques, religioses, socials, sindicals, etc. Les persones amb vocaci&oacute; a servir han de tenir unes certes qualitats i entre elles est&agrave; acordar, dialogar, pactar, etc. Crec que molt pocs hauran llegit l&#39;acord i jo no estic entre ells, si &eacute;s que n&#39;hi ha. El temps ens dir&agrave; si tot val per a assegurar els famosos set vots.<\/p>\n<p><strong>P: Puigdemont passar&agrave; a la hist&ograve;ria de la pol&iacute;tica espanyola i m&eacute;s despr&eacute;s de la seva segona fugida, Qu&egrave; pensa d&#39;aix&ograve;?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>R: No ho crec. Cap historiador seri&oacute;s li dedicar&agrave; m&eacute;s d&#39;una l&iacute;nia. Qu&egrave; diria d&#39;ell Jaume Vicent Vives? Catal&agrave;, un gran historiador i, si no em falla la mem&ograve;ria, de Girona. Aix&ograve; de la fugida, &eacute;s de Berlanga.<\/p>\n<p><strong>P: Est&agrave; d&#39;acord amb un finan&ccedil;ament propi per a Catalunya a canvi de fer president a Illa?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>R: A Illa ho ha fet president la gent de Catalunya. No t&eacute; majoria per&ograve; en Les Corts ho han votat. Catalunya ha passat d&#39;estar en les p&agrave;gines de successos a una normalitat que la gran majoria de votants, inclosos alguns de Junts, desitjaven. Caldria llegir el document de l&#39;acord del finan&ccedil;ament i jo no l&#39;he fet.<\/p>\n<p><strong>P: De la casa de davant, Ayuso sembla que t&eacute; molt m&eacute;s estirada medi&agrave;tica, fins i tot per davant de Feij&oacute;o, no?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>R: Gaireb&eacute; tots sabem com funciona aix&ograve; de l&#39;estirada medi&agrave;tica. I per a tenir m&eacute;s estirada que el president del PP no &eacute;s necessari que esmentem a una persona que telefona a un president del govern &ldquo;que li agrada la fruita&rdquo;. No solc ficar-me en problemes d&#39;altres partits. Bastant tinc amb el meu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>P: Qu&egrave; opina de la irrupci&oacute; de Vox i l&#39;avan&ccedil; de l&#39;extrema dreta en tota Europa?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>R: El rar seria que en un pa&iacute;s amb gaireb&eacute; 40 anys d&#39;un govern autoritari no hi hagu&eacute;s un partit d&#39;extrema dreta forta. L&#39;avan&ccedil; en tota Europa &eacute;s producte que l&#39;esquerra i la dreta democr&agrave;tiques no han sabut entendre&#39;s, excepte en comptades ocasions. Miren m&eacute;s els interessos propis que el benestar dels seus pobles.<\/p>\n<p><strong>P: En canvi, forces com Podemos, Ciutadans, Upyd i altres que eren l&#39;alternativa al bipartidisme han desaparegut. Per qu&egrave;?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>R: El problema no era el bipartidisme sin&oacute; que esperaven ocupar l&#39;espai dels dos partits majoritaris i l&#39;han pagat car.<\/p>\n<p><strong>P: Quin va ser el seu millor i pitjor experi&egrave;ncia en el Congr&eacute;s dels Diputats?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>R: El millor, representar als valencians durant gaireb&eacute; 20 anys i participar en la Constituci&oacute; m&eacute;s longeva i progressista del nostre pa&iacute;s. El pitjor, viure 18 hores en mans d&#39;uns delinq&uuml;ents armats que van amena&ccedil;ar la jove democr&agrave;cia espanyola.<\/p>\n<p><strong>P: El 23 de febrer de 1981 encara est&agrave; en la seva ment?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>R: Cada dia menys. El que m&#39;entristeix &eacute;s que molts personatges militars, civils, periodistes, pol&iacute;tics i grans empresaris es van anar de rositas i nom&eacute;s un civil va trepitjar la pres&oacute;. No han aparegut les cintes dels quals animaven als colpistes i les paraules de l&#39;em&egrave;rit als l&iacute;ders pol&iacute;tics quan els va rebre a la Zarzuela. No tenen desaprofitament.<\/p>\n<p><strong>P: A nivell auton&ograve;mic, com s&#39;explica que la Sanitat i l&#39;Educaci&oacute; continu&iuml;n tenint mancances quan s&oacute;n la base de la societat?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>R: Sanitat, educaci&oacute;, pensions, infraestructures, desigualtat, etc. Trigaran bastants anys perqu&egrave; funcionin al 100%. El problema dep&egrave;n de molts factors. Esperem que el sentit com&uacute; normalitzi la situaci&oacute;.<\/p>\n<p><strong>P: Jos&eacute; Chulvi, ex alcalde de X&agrave;bia, est&agrave; ara com a diputat en Les Corts. Com &eacute;s possible perdre una majoria absoluta tan aclaparadora en la teva pr&ograve;pia casa?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; R: Jos&eacute; Chulvi &eacute;s un gran pol&iacute;tic. Per&ograve; en democr&agrave;cia, l&#39;alternan&ccedil;a &eacute;s imprescindible i els electors voten per molts motius que a vegades no fan just&iacute;cia. Aix&ograve; de perdre majories absolutes &eacute;s bastant freq&uuml;ent.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; P: Si parlem de la comarca, el Tren de la Costa ni est&agrave; ni se li espera, almenys en un curt termini.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; R: &Eacute;s una infraestructura important per&ograve; cal parlar tamb&eacute; de l&#39;aigua, de la massificaci&oacute; tur&iacute;stica, de l&#39;atur, de l&#39;agricultura, etc. Cal marcar prioritats. Tot menys estar de bra&ccedil;os plegats.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; P: A Benissa, el PSOE no &ldquo;toca bola&rdquo; des dels temps de Pepe Tent, el primer alcalde. Qu&egrave; passa?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>R: Molt bona pregunta per a la direcci&oacute; local del partit. Pepe Tent &eacute;s un dels millors valors que t&eacute; l&#39;organitzaci&oacute; en tots els nivells. Un alcalde que va posar al nostre poble en el mapa.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u201cM&#8217;entristeix que molta gent relacionada amb el 23F es va anar de rositas\u201d","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":22164,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"csco_display_header_overlay":false,"csco_singular_sidebar":"","csco_page_header_type":"","csco_page_load_nextpost":"","csco_post_video_location":[],"csco_post_video_location_hash":"","csco_post_video_url":"","csco_post_video_bg_start_time":0,"csco_post_video_bg_end_time":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[611],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-46237","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-politica-ca-es","cs-entry","cs-video-wrap"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v26.6 (Yoast SEO v27.3) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>L&#039;entrevista\/Jaume Castells Ferrer: \u201cHi ha molts amb o sense carnet que som socialistes i no veiem clar el que passa\u201d - 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